New York State Assemblymember Harry Bronson is chair of the Assembly Labor Committee. On this episode of our Policy Outsider series, “A Look at Labor,” Rockefeller Institute Director of Labor Policy Maria Figueroa interviews the assemblymember about his legislative efforts in 2025 and what his focus will be in 2026. The conversation touches on the assemblymember’s work to protect workers and businesses, an increase in unemployment benefits, developments in green jobs and the green economy, and the latest on regulations for gig work.

Guests

  • Harry Bronson, New York State Assemblymember, Assembly District 138
  • Maria Figueroa, Director of Labor Policy, Rockefeller Institute of Government
  • Transcript

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    Joel Tirado 00:00
    Welcome to Policy Outsider presented by the Rockefeller Institute of Government. I’m Joel Tirado. New York State Assemblymember Harry Bronson is chair of the Assembly Labor Committee. On this episode of our Policy Outsider series, “A Look at Labor,” Rockefeller Institute Director of Labor Policy Maria Figueroa interviews the assemblymember about his legislative efforts in 2025 and what his focus will be in 2026. The conversation touches on the assemblymember’s work to protect workers and businesses, an increase in unemployment benefits, developments in green jobs and the green economy, and the latest on regulations for gig work. A quick note before we get into the interview. This conversation was recorded on December 16, 2025 and the assembly member makes reference to bills that have since been acted on by the governor. Where appropriate, we explain those actions with a brief interjection. The conversation with New York State Assembly Member Harry Bronson is up next.

    Maria Figueroa 01:21
    Hello, everyone. We’re honored to welcome New York State Assembly Member Harry Bronson to our podcast series focusing on labor policy. Assembly member Bronson is a Democrat representing District 138 in the city of Rochester. He is Chair of the Assembly Committee on Labor and member of the education, Ways and Means and rules committees. Assembly member Ronson has promoted economic and workforce development initiatives across the state. Thank you, Assembly Member, for joining us today.

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 01:55
    Thank you for having me, Maria. I really appreciate it.

    Maria Figueroa 01:59
    We’ve had a challenging year in New York and across the nation due to the impacts of federal policies and the recent government shutdown. To mitigate these impacts, you championed the federal legislation package, which included the NLRB trigger bill, the remedial remedial Construction Law and the shield law 2.0 how can these laws help New York residents?

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 02:25
    So it’s really important for us to make sure that we protect workers and protect other folks here in New York. Our number one job is the health and safety of New Yorkers, and unfortunately, what’s happening at the federal level is an attack against workers, organized labor and workers rights, as well as an approach in a lot of different areas that looks at people differently and instead of looking at folks for their dignity and for their humanity, instead tries to divide us instead of uniting us. So I was involved in putting forth a package of legislation that would address these attacks from the federal government, and the first one is the National Labor Relations Board trigger bill back while the current administration, President Trump, was running for reelection. You know, this document came out called Project 2025, and in that document, there were lots of different areas on how they were going to shake up and change the federal government. One of the areas was in the area of labor law and workers rights. And so shortly after becoming re elected, I began having monthly meetings with state legislators from across the country to put forth a strategy and how we were going to defend workers rights in our state against what’s happening at the federal level. The National Labor Relations Board trigger Bill was the result of that discussion, that strategy and those conversations in general, and we were the very first state in the in the nation, to pass a National Labor Relations Board trigger bill, California passed One after we did. So let me just tell you and your listeners what this bill does. It basically says that the if the National Labor Relations Board is unwilling or unable to fulfill its obligation to a. Implement the rights of workers in the private sector to organize and and select their representatives to be their labor union, or if there’s a dispute between a union and an employer, again in the private sector, and the National Labor Relations Board doesn’t act or is unwilling to act, then our State Public Employment Relations Board would have jurisdiction in a third authority to review the organizing efforts of employees, or if there’s a labor dispute between a union and management and the employer. So we, we passed that bill, and unfortunately, now we’re in litigation about it, but we were the first state to do it in California was the second state. So that’s the National Labor Relations Board trigger bill.

    Maria Figueroa 05:55
    Great. And what about the remedial construction Labor Law Act?

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 06:01
    Yeah. So as we know, with reproductive choice or abortion rights, we have the Dobbs decision that reversed woman’s right to reproductive choices and abortion after 50 years. Well, a similar Supreme Court decision came down. It’s not as as well known, but after 70 years, 70 years of the Supreme Court interpreting the National Labor Relations Act, that’s a federal law, interpreting it for the the intent and spirit of law, and that is for workers rights they started. The Supreme Court says the courts don’t have to interpret it that way anymore. So similarly, under the New York labor laws that remedial or worker protection interpretation of our labor law has been long standing case law. The concern is that oftentimes courts conflict the way they interpret the National Labor Relations Act with the way they interpret New York labor law. So this bill is kind of a preventative bill that will protect workers and prevent harm to workers from unscrupulous employers who seek to either just ignore or circumvent our New York state labor law. And it basically says, notwithstanding what happened in that Supreme Court case here in New York, judges would be required to interpret in a case that’s before them, interpret New York labor law for its intended purpose, and that’s To protect workers. So this comes into play when there are alleged violations of not paying the minimum wage in New York State, violations of not paying overtime in New York State, or not giving time for rest, which is obligated under New York state law. And basically what we’re what we’re trying to do is is just say we want to continue with the way we’re interpreting labor law here in New York, which is to protect workers as well as to protect law abiding employers who are following the law, and so they’re on a level playing field with everybody and not having employers who will cheat the system.

    Joel Tirado 08:44
    Joel here, this bill, the remedial construction of New York Labor Law Act, was vetoed by the governor on Friday, December 19. Yeah.

    Maria Figueroa 08:54
    And what about the shale law 2.0 which is of key importance to our LGBTQ plus communities, yeah.

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 09:04
    Well, it’s important to our LGBTQ plus community, of which I’m a member, but it’s also important for, you know, women who want to make their own medical health decisions as relates to a pregnancy and reproductive rights. So a number of years ago, in 2022 and 2023 we passed two shield laws, if you will. One was for reproductive rights, and the other was for gender affirming care for our trans and gender diverse communities, and the second one is the one I carried, which was called the trans safe haven act, and both of those that would prevent governmental entities, including our court system, to facilitate out of state. Um. On either criminal or civil charges from out of state entities, right? So what we realized over the last couple of years is that those laws aren’t quite strong enough to offer protections for reproductive choice and for gender affirming care. So we have the shield law 2.0 that the governor, just like the remedial construction bill is considering right now, we are in active negotiations with the governor’s people on this bill. I think we’re getting very close to having an agreement between the governor, the Senate and the Assembly that this will get passed, but we’re still in conversations. But what this bill does, it goes a little bit further than the laws that were passed a couple of years ago. This fortifies the protections for protections against information regarding health care legally provided health care here in New York State, allowing that to be shared with an out of state government or entity that’s trying to either criminally or civilly prosecute a person here in New York state that has received that type of legally protective care, specifically mentioned reproductive health care as well as gender affirming care. It also gives the Attorney General the right to implement the shield against that prosecution from out of state, so the attorney general would be put on notice that there is either a subpoena or what’s called an information instrument in civil litigation, and the Attorney General will be put on notice and and the Attorney General, she’ll be able to protect these individuals, as well as the health care providers, from any persecution. It also includes protections for lawyers who are involved in in representing these individuals and all of the healthcare providers in connection with their medical license to practice medicine here in New York state. So we’re hopeful that gets passed. It’s going to be, you know, a really powerful instrument to fight against what’s happening at the federal level as well.

    Joel Tirado 12:25
    Joel, again, this bill, the shield law 2.0 signed by the governor on Friday, December 19.

    Maria Figueroa 12:33
    Another important initiative this year was the increasing the unemployment benefits can you tell us about that?

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 12:45
    I sure can. That was one of my proudest moments. Was to bring labor together at the table with the business community we had this was a I think it was the number one issue for the American with the AFL CIO labor organization as well as the Business Council, and they both supported the assembly’s proposal to address unemployment insurance. So let’s just back up and look at how we got here, so back when we were enduring a covid and the really difficult situation we had at that time. And I’ll share with your listeners, I actually up until a little over a year ago, was a business owner, and I owned a coffee shop with my husband, and we were one of the businesses that the state said you must close so that we were keeping a distance and keeping people safe and things of that nature. So they the state did what it needed to do, but it required initially businesses to close, which resulted in layoffs of employees, and then it also when they were able to reopen. Like us, we had shortened hours that we could be open. We couldn’t we had to reduce the number of people who could be in our cafe at a time so that we could keep people six feet apart, and all that kind of stuff that resulted, we kept people safe from a medical standpoint, but it resulted in a lot of employers laying off employees. The unemployment insurance is funded through a tax on employers. Okay, it’s 100% funded by employers. There was not enough money in the unemployment insurance state trust fund to pay the benefits, so the state had to borrow. They borrowed around $10 billion from the federal government to pay these. Unemployment insurance benefits. And unlike other states, California and New York State were the only two states that then, then didn’t use the federal ARPA dollars that came out of the Biden administration. We were the only two states that did not pay off that federal debt. So we So ultimately, last or earlier this year, there was still $6.2 billion owed to the federal government. The other piece of this is both under federal regulation as well as under our New York state law, if the state owes a debt to the Federal Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund. We cannot increase our benefits under unemployment, so our benefits have been stagnant at the 2019 level. The covid shutdown happened in 2020 so there was no increase in 2020, and no increase since that time until we did this measure in the budget. The benefits then were $504 maximum a week, and clearly not enough to live on if you get laid off and you’re from one job to the next. So what we did is we agreed to pay off the debt that was $6.2 billion that was paid off in June of this year. As a result, the debt was paid off so we could then increase the maximum weekly benefit. We increased the maximum maximum weekly benefit to the level it would have been on 2025 but for the debt. And so we increased from $504 maximum weekly benefit to $869 huge increase for our workers that got laid off and then the other this was an $8 billion project. So we also authorized the governor to take $1.8 billion out of the reserves. And if the there was a risk that the unemployment insurance trust fund would no longer be solvent, she could use that money to keep it solvent. My understanding is in January, we will be transferring $1 billion from the surplus, the reserves for the state into the trust fund to keep it solvent. As we move forward,

    Maria Figueroa 17:31
    I see, okay, that’s, that’s, that’s very, very good. That’s, that’s great.

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 17:37
    Yeah, it’s one. This is one of those example I, you know, I’m a labor lawyer by trade. Even though I owned a business, I was a labor lawyer before I came to the assembly. And I’ve always firmly believed, even though you fight really hard, labor fights really hard with management and employers, because we want workers to have, you know, good pay, good benefits, safe workplaces, all that kind of stuff. But when, when labor and management work together, oftentimes you get the best results. This is an example of, you know, the AFL CIO and the Business Council working together to come up with a solution that really benefited tremendously workers, but it also benefit employers, in particular small businesses

    Maria Figueroa 18:27
    right now. That’s excellent, as in a very effective approach to labor relations and employment policy. So that’s excellent, yeah, so as we approach the 2026 legislative session, what are your thoughts for policy priorities?

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 18:49
    Oh, wow, I got so much stuff going on, Maria, we I’m really excited about 2026 you know this is I love being Chair of the Labor Committee. I love fighting for workers, but you know, we’ve done some really good things when it comes to worker safety. You know, we have, you know, we’ve passed worker safety laws in connection with warehouse workers, making sure that quotas don’t force them to work in a dangerous way that would result in injuries. We just passed last year the warehouse worker injury reduction bill, and then just a few days ago, the governor signed another one of my bills, the elevator bill, which is about licensure and making sure that we keep workers safe in the elevator industry. So next year, we’re focusing still on safety. I want to work on what we call the temp bill, the temperature extreme mitigation program, act to put in regulations here in New York State that would require in. Extreme heat situation, whether it’s indoor outdoor, that we have cooling mechanisms shade things of that nature, that there’s always water available, and that there’s rest periods if somebody is starting to feel heat exhaustion, so that they can stay safe. One of the reasons I mentioned earlier meeting with state legislators in the labor area across the country. This is another topic that is of high priority across the country, because under the current Trump administration, you know, we do not think they’re going to go forward with the OSHA guidelines that were under consideration when President Biden was in place, so we want to get that moved another worker safety bill, library safety bill. This relates to the unfortunate situation where more hostilities are happening toward our librarians, whether it’s our public libraries, our school libraries, our nonprofit libraries. And in fact, unfortunately, you know, a lot of threats are happening because of the ban the book movement and and then, most recently, unfortunately, we actually had a homicide of a librarian who from a patron. So this bill would require library safety. And then lastly, on the safety area, the AFL CIO has a for public sector employees, an expansion of a bill I worked on when I was counsel to the assembly Labor Committee. My predecessor passed this bill in 2006 I don’t know if your listeners will recall, but you know the phrase going postal, and that was where, yeah, where a post office worker went in and assaulted and killed fellow employees. So that bill was was passed in 2006 next year. We want to expand on that bill, make it stronger, especially given the level of violence that are happening with folks. So that’s in the workers safety area the temporary disability insurance. Temporary disability is when someone is not injured on the job. That’s when workers comp kicks in, but when they’re injured outside the job, but they get coverage. Unfortunately, the weekly benefit is only $170 per week maximum, and that hasn’t increased since 1989 so we want to, we want to increase that tremendously. And then lastly, at least what I’ll mention, there’s other stuff going on, but lastly, tomorrow, I’m actually going to be conducting a hearing on artificial intelligence and its impact on the private and public workforce, there’s estimates that 20% of our workforce is going to be replaced by artificial intelligence. So we want to take a look at that. Hear from experts, labor people, technology, experts, government people, and try to put together a legislative package that will do a couple of things. One, how do we address if someone is displaced out of work because of artificial intelligence, but also to make sure that any decisions made based on artificial intelligence, whether it’s a hiring decision, a promotion or raise decision, a termination decision, that that the any algorithm that’s used is used in a fair and safe way that will protect workers. So those are some of the things we’re working on. But there’s so much going on. I could go on and on. I absolutely love working on behalf of fighting on behalf of workers so but I’ll stop there for 2026

    Maria Figueroa 24:08
    Okay, well, thank you so much. That was amazing. And moving on to another topic in which you’ve been very active as well, which is in supporting workforce development initiatives and programs across the state, including apprenticeship programs, pre apprenticeship programs. Can you, can you tell us about that?

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 24:37
    Yeah, what I I’m a firm believer in apprenticeship programs. I think it is the gold standard for workforce development, workforce training. It’s a really good approach, because, you know, people actually can earn as they learn. They get they get a paycheck while they’re on. The job learning. They’re learning from journey. People who are have tremendous amount of experience and tied to that they’re at the same time have to take, you know, classroom education and training. So, you know, the construction trades have done this for a lot of years, very successfully. We fund, and we fund some construction trades, both pre apprenticeship programs, which kind of typically teach the soft skills of having a job, and then they have a direct entry into the full apprenticeship program. But we we fund at the state level construction trades apprenticeship programs. We fund manufacturing trades, which helps manufacturers get employees that will be trained through the apprenticeship program. We have an education apprenticeship program, teaching teachers. I’m going to be pushing really hard for additional funding there. But one of the beautiful things about apprenticeship programs, I am a firm believer that everything we do when it comes to workforce development, whether we’re directly investing and putting money in the workforce development, or whether it’s through economic development, is that we need to be intentional. There are far too many people who have been on the sidelines of our economy and the sidelines of workforce for far too long. So apprenticeships is a wonderful way to address that and bring these people in. So I’ll give you an example. Here in Rochester, we have what’s called the inner loop. This is a highway system that, basically, back in the 60s, broke up communities to put a highway system so people could literally just go around the city instead of going in the city. And that’s not unusual. I mean, there’s lots of examples of that across the country, but it split up predominantly black and brown communities. So we now have funding. We have already filled in a portion of the inner loop and built affordable housing, built commercial development, and reconnected those neighborhoods. We have another phase to fill in the northern part of the inner loop. One of the things we’re doing under a project labor agreement, which is an agreement that construction companies will enter into with the city, is to require, require that those construction companies hire people from these communities that were split up when the when that highway was built. So these are folks who have are in marginalized communities who just need an opportunity. And so through the project labor agreement, we’re creating that opportunity by requiring that people from certain zip codes will be hired into these apprentice programs so that they can have a job and then they can learn a good construction trade and earn middle class wages as they go forward with benefits.

    Maria Figueroa 28:38
    That’s That’s excellent. Yeah. And another factor that is also important to look at when it comes to project labor agreements with community benefits, right, yeah, is that the apprentices are employed for a minimum of hours, right? That there is, there is some guaranteed employment time for them, right? Because usually I’ve studied this, this subject and in the past, and what we used to see across the country is that they would employ people or apprentices from underserved communities only for the very first few weeks, and in order to comply with this, with this quotas, right? And and then they’ll be gone. And so yeah, is great. I mean this, this new tools, right that we have in these project labor agreements are excellent. And I don’t know if, if, if, if you went into those details, but I’m, you know, I’m is very encouraging that you’re promoting these agreements.

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 29:57
    Yeah, Maria, you’re, you’re 100% correct. When I say there’s a requirement to hire folks from underserved communities by identifying the zip codes. I mean, first of all, you should know, here in the city of Rochester, we have, we have very intense and deep poverty in our city, we are in the top five. We have three of the most impoverished zip codes in the in the state we and unfortunately, the Bronx, are the two areas that have the most intense deep poverty. So when I’m talking about requiring the hiring of folks from these underserved zip codes, these underserved communities, absolutely, we’ve got to make sure that these are jobs that are going to be long lasting, and they’re going to be keep, kept in those jobs. So I you know, one of, one of the things that I I’ve done with apprenticeships, is I am the creator of the Empire State apprenticeship tax credit and and to encourage folks employers to keep apprenticeships all the way through so that They graduate to become a journey person. We start if they hire someone we it’s called disconnected youth. If they hire someone between the ages of 16 to 24 who’s not doesn’t have a current job, not in school, and they place them in an apprenticeship program, the tax credit that goes to the employer, starts at $5,000 per employee, and then to encourage that, they graduate them. The next year, it’s 6000 the year after that, it’s 7000 and the year after that, it’s 7000 up to five years in addition, in addition to encourage wrap around services that will help give supportive services. So the individual is successful in that apprenticeship program, they get an additional $500 tax credit per employee if they offer supportive mentoring wrapped around services. So all of that is 100% aligned to your observation. We’re not talking about hiring for a few weeks. We want you to hire them for you know, the entire apprenticeship program. Graduate them from one year to the next until they get their journey card.

    Maria Figueroa 32:37
    That’s great. Well, you’re also a very strong advocate for green jobs, and really is related to this topic as well, right of apprentices, apprenticeships and pre apprenticeships. Can you tell us about recent developments in this area?

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 32:59
    Sure can. So you know, we passed a number of years ago a very ambitious goal through the climate leadership and community Protection Act, wanting to reduce the reliance on fossil fuels and make the transition to green economy. So I am working with the climate jobs Institute out of the Cornell school, ILR School, industrial labor relations school, and there we fund them each year. And their job is to do research, and, you know, develop education in this area. But the idea is to move us forward to a green economy, a sustainable economy, but at the same time make sure that the workers in those economies are organized and or definitely have good pay, with benefits, safe working conditions, those kind of things. So we have, we are trying to be intentional. And there’s two ways on this when it comes to workers rights. One is, we want to make sure that if, if somebody’s already working in the fossil economy, that we help them make the transition through the green economy, so that may be upskilling training things of that nature. But in addition, just like I just mentioned with apprenticeships, we want to be intentional and have people who have been in underserved communities on the economic sidelines. We want to make sure that they can seize upon the opportunities that the green economy will present. So you know. So I’m looking at ways to fund these programs, ways to be intentional, to have the workforce development as an aspect of the program. We I’ve traveled a little bit with the climate jobs Institute each year, myself and Senator Ramos, my counterpart in the Senate Labor chair. We’ve led delegations of legislators to other areas, other countries, that have moved forward. For instance, we have, we were in Vancouver, most recently, earlier this summer and Vancouver has done tremendous work in thermal energy networks. So these are where you have energy networks that are producing heat or cooling systems based on sustainable energy instead of fossil energy, but they’re but they are serving communities. For instance, there was one in Vancouver, indigenous community. They had a school there, they had daycare there, they had a grocery store there, other retail their affordable housing. And it was all, all of it was renewable energy from the sewage and waste from the community. They would bring that in and convert it into heat energy or cooling energy and and, I mean, just think about it, if you, if you’re in New York City, you’re walking up the street. I mean, you see, you know, these manhole covers with steam coming out of them, right? Yeah. So this thermal energy network captures all that energy from the community and converts it into energy that heats and cools the buildings in that community. So those are the kind of exciting things that we’re working on. We funded that program here in New York State to do that in three SUNY campuses, as well as to have one built in the city of Jamestown in the western part of the state.

    Maria Figueroa 36:59
    Wow, that’s, that’s so exciting. That’s, that’s great, yes, well, moving on to the topic of gig economy workers and the issues they face. Yeah, yeah, you, you played a critical role in the passage of the freelance is in free law. Can you share any updates on the implementation of this law or and how enforcement is uh, is going?

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 37:29
    Yeah, so what the law did was to create a so let’s back up. So the gig economy could mean a lot of things, but basically it’s where someone contracts to do a job. They’re not an employee, so they don’t get a w2 they don’t get, you know, their taxes withdrawn. They’re not covered by unemployment insurance or workers comp all that kind of stuff. But they’re in a contract to do a job. They’re an independent contractor, or a gig worker, as we call them, to that. And so unfortunately, there are estimates of, you know, $12 billion having not been paid to gig workers because, you know, it’s a contract sometimes, prior to the passage of this law, it wasn’t in writing, it was just an oral contract. You know, there was a dispute on the amount and things of that nature. So the freelance isn’t free. Bill that we passed is to recognize the work that these gig workers do, and to respect that work, to require that any contract that is $800 or more has to be in writing, to require that there has to be a payment at no more than 30 days after the projects completed, unless the written contract shortens that time period and to have an enforcement mechanism in place. So we passed the law, and my understanding from the Freelancers union is that is going well. They’ve developed a model contract that their members can use, that people are starting to get paid in a more timely and, you know, getting their their their work, reimbursed and compensated for, if you will. And so it seems like it’s, it’s working out pretty well. And we have a mechanism in place that if it’s not, then there’s a way to seek damages, not only to get, you know, the dollar amount that they were owed, but also that there would be damages, and they the other party would have to pay more money if they failed to. Pay the way they were required for. So it seems like it’s going pretty well.

    Maria Figueroa 40:04
    That’s great. And is, is the Department of Labor, the agency that is administering and enforcing,

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 40:13
    yeah, that was something we had to change in the original bill. We had the department of labor that would enforce these contracts. We don’t have that what, but there is a legal mechanism for the person to seek compensation under the contract.

    Maria Figueroa 40:32
    I see, I see what you’re saying. Okay, great. Well, that’s, that’s wonderful. All right. Well, these are the key questions we have for you assembly member, but would you like to offer any other thoughts or final thoughts?

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 40:50
    Of course? Well, you know, we are, we’re we’re really facing significant challenges right now, predominantly due to the federal government’s reckless actions, if you will, funding cuts, their attack on workers. And you know, it’s trying times, and then we have an economy where, you know, it’s hard to make ends meet, put food on your table, pay for your rent or your mortgage, you know, have health insurance, all these things are really creating anxiety for our New Yorkers. We have an attack on immigrants and undocumented individuals, and, you know an attack on, you know, the gay community, and really, you know a federal government that is trying to create divisiveness and create fear and others, and it’s difficult times. And I want your listeners to know, I understand how difficult it is out there. We you know, just recently, our community came together, and I think that’s what we have to do. We have to come together. Our our community came together. We made national news because ice and border patrol was unfairly targeting just some hard working people, a crew that was on a roof, putting a roof on a house, and you know, our community came together, prevented them from continuing to harass these workers. And I think that we’re going to get through this. I want people to have hope we’re going to get through this. And I think we’re going to get through it, because if we work together, if we support each other, and if we and if we just adhere to, I think, the ideals of our country and the American experiment, and that is that, you know, everybody has humanity, everybody has dignity, and we must treat them that way. You know, we we say pledge to allegiance all the time. And the last phrase in that is liberty and justice for all. Liberty and justice for all. So I’m going to keep fighting for justice for all. I’m going to keep fighting for equity. I am going to do everything I can to fight against this approach by our federal government. And I think I’m going to be successful, because I know there’s going to be a lot of folks who are listening to this podcast who will also join and make sure that we have justice and due process for everybody, even undocumented individuals, and that we will not allow words of hate to divide us, whether it’s based on race or based on religion or based on a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity. I’m not going to allow that to happen, and I know your listeners aren’t either. So I I look forward to fighting together. I look forward to supporting each other. I look forward to us pushing back against this movement, against we as a people, against our humanity and against our free democracy, they’re not going to be successful, and it’s because we’re going to be united, and our strength comes from our unity.

    Maria Figueroa 44:37
    Thank you so much, family member for for sharing your views, your thoughts and and for everything that you do.

    Assemblymember Harry Bronson 44:46
    Thank you so much for having me and for this opportunity. I truly appreciate it.

    Joel Tirado 44:52
    Thanks again to New York State Assembly Member Harry Bronson and Rockefeller Institute Director of labor policy, Maria Figueroa for that look. Look at some of the key labor issues in New York state. If you liked this episode, please rate, subscribe and share it will help others find the podcast and help us deliver the latest in Public Policy Research. All of our episodes are available for free wherever you stream your podcasts, and transcripts are available on our website. I’m Joel tirado, until next time,

    Joel Tirado 45:32
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